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lyndon johnson couldn't even pronounce his name cockled muslim ex. it didn't know who he was. the autobiography that cannot nine months after he was killed, towards the end of 1965, raised his profile dramatically. and the next year when black power was pronounced and he was -- as a new doctrine -- and he was kind of adopted as the patron saint of political power, she became more significant in death than he was in life as a political the influence. c-span: how what are you now? >> guest: and 51. c-span: one is the next book do? this is 1998. >> guest: well, i hesitate to make predictions, because so many of them have been long, but i don't think this will take nine years. i think it'll take three or four more years to get the third volume of the trilogy, which is called at canon's edge. it's kind of completing my three titles based out of the book of exodus, parting the waters, this one pillar of fire and then at cannes and savage, you know, evo kinkos is, trying to -- getting up to look over it into canaan, but he's not allowed to go. kind of like -- in that part of american
lyndon johnson couldn't even pronounce his name cockled muslim ex. it didn't know who he was. the autobiography that cannot nine months after he was killed, towards the end of 1965, raised his profile dramatically. and the next year when black power was pronounced and he was -- as a new doctrine -- and he was kind of adopted as the patron saint of political power, she became more significant in death than he was in life as a political the influence. c-span: how what are you now? >> guest:...
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lyndon johnson readily be barry goldwater and richard nixon overwhelming george mcgovern. in each of those elections, one of the candidates failed to capture the spirit of the american voting public. and the winner had the advantage of the weak opponent. franklin roosevelt won his second term, landslide, because of his huge popularity. however, in many more presidential elections, the candidates are in a heated battle to present themselves as the one best capable of serving the country with the winner walking off with the modest majority. it is a customary wisdom that the campaign between the incumbent president and his opponent will be either a referendum on the first term of the president, or a judgment of which candidate will be the better leader. is there really a difference between these two considerations? does not boil down to judging the leadership skill of the incumbent based on his effectiveness during his first term, versus the unknown leadership skills of the challenger? it's easy to point to the national security, or the economic consequences, or consequent im
lyndon johnson readily be barry goldwater and richard nixon overwhelming george mcgovern. in each of those elections, one of the candidates failed to capture the spirit of the american voting public. and the winner had the advantage of the weak opponent. franklin roosevelt won his second term, landslide, because of his huge popularity. however, in many more presidential elections, the candidates are in a heated battle to present themselves as the one best capable of serving the country with the...
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lyndon johnson and again i'm using every authority i can find. but lyndon johnson i'm sure he picked this up from -- but pressing the flesh was johnson-ism. i will be down there in a flash and lady bird gets credit for motorcade. didn't exist before she comes up with motorcade and it's picked up by "time" magazine. there is no elise written example that has been used before. richard nixon has some nice ones. depending on your point of view. the silent majority is his and excellent ability is a coinage that either he or his speechwriters when they're going over the records of the watergate they use that term. if something is censored or bleeped its deleted which became its own curse word. another one which was really interesting is when he started talking about winding down the war. and winding down seemed to be sort of a winding up. it created some real response at that time. george herbert walker bush came up with new world order which was his. he got that from somewhere else that made it his own and popularized it. george bush came under a lot
lyndon johnson and again i'm using every authority i can find. but lyndon johnson i'm sure he picked this up from -- but pressing the flesh was johnson-ism. i will be down there in a flash and lady bird gets credit for motorcade. didn't exist before she comes up with motorcade and it's picked up by "time" magazine. there is no elise written example that has been used before. richard nixon has some nice ones. depending on your point of view. the silent majority is his and excellent...
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had some nice ones, but lyndon johnson picked up a couple -- lyndon johnson, again, i'm using every authority i can find, but i'm sure he picked this up. pressing the flesh was a johnsonism. i'll be down there pressing the flesh. and ladybird gets credit for motorcade. that doesn't exist before she comes up with motorcade, and it's picked up by "time" magazine. there's no at least written example of that being used before that. um, richard nixon has some nice ones. he -- depending on your point of view -- but silent majority is his, deleted a coinage of his speech writers when they're going over the records of the watergate, their use of term instead of saying censored they used the term expletive deleted which became its own sort of curse word. another one which was very interesting at the time, created quite a stir was when he talked about, started talking about winding down the war and winding down seemed to be sort of -- you know, we're winding up, it was few to american ears and created -- it was new to american ears and created some real response at that time. george h -- yeah
had some nice ones, but lyndon johnson picked up a couple -- lyndon johnson, again, i'm using every authority i can find, but i'm sure he picked this up. pressing the flesh was a johnsonism. i'll be down there pressing the flesh. and ladybird gets credit for motorcade. that doesn't exist before she comes up with motorcade, and it's picked up by "time" magazine. there's no at least written example of that being used before that. um, richard nixon has some nice ones. he -- depending on...
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finally robert caro, the pulitzer prize winning author of the biography of lyndon johnson. the most recent biography is called "the passage of power." i'm pleased to have all of them here as we broadcast on this inauguration day as we talk about the second term of president barack obama. i begin with robert caro. what is the challenge for presidents in a second term? >> challenge but a great opportunity when you're in the second term you have nothing more to run for, no more elections. so what you're running for a place in history and you know if you do a great job you will have a great place in history. >> rose: and you never know what's coming though, as vietnam -- >> oh, it -- as i write now, the last line about lyndon johnson, when his second term starts with passing medicare, voting rights act, civil rights act just on the triumph of getting social welfare legislation through and here comes vietnam in 1965 overshadowing it all and everything turns and as you're listening to the tapes of these conversations and you hear the despair in his -- the growing despair in his v
finally robert caro, the pulitzer prize winning author of the biography of lyndon johnson. the most recent biography is called "the passage of power." i'm pleased to have all of them here as we broadcast on this inauguration day as we talk about the second term of president barack obama. i begin with robert caro. what is the challenge for presidents in a second term? >> challenge but a great opportunity when you're in the second term you have nothing more to run for, no more...
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lyndon johnson had a wonderful line i remember. dean rush at one point said, "the globe's driving us crazy. tell de gaulle to go to hell." and lyndon johnson said, "you have to learn something about politics. you never tell somebody in politics to go to hell unless you can send them there." ( laughter )iúand obama can't e republicans to hell. but he can, i think, he can get some of cooperation from them that he hasn't gotten in the past. and, also, he's got to reach out to the democrats. bob woodward made an important point. i can confirm that. there's a real sense on the hill that he doesn't really-- not that he doesn't like us, he doesn't respect us. he doesn't think we're like him. he thinks our fingers are dirty or whatever. and that's-- you know, that's very important for him to get over that >> dr. petersen, you can have the last word. >> i disagree that he stuck his finger in the eye of the n.r.a. or the gun lobby-- the last segment were talking about how he handled the n.r.a. piece without enough nuance. if you are around
lyndon johnson had a wonderful line i remember. dean rush at one point said, "the globe's driving us crazy. tell de gaulle to go to hell." and lyndon johnson said, "you have to learn something about politics. you never tell somebody in politics to go to hell unless you can send them there." ( laughter )iúand obama can't e republicans to hell. but he can, i think, he can get some of cooperation from them that he hasn't gotten in the past. and, also, he's got to reach out to...
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lyndon johnson talking to martin luther king. he said, "martin i want you to find the worst place in the south where there are the fewest negroes" -- that was the term then -- "that are eligible to vote and get your people down there and get people down there and get leaders down there and get it on television and get it on radio and get the american people to see it. then i'll shove this bill through this congress. i'll get voting rights because and treat it as the same for everybody. it's not a negro thing. we want the guy on the track the guy in chicago the guy in sub urban white to say, wait a minute, it's not fair. if you get that publicity we'll see that. "so it was reaching out you know getting guys to go to work for him. you know, we didn't have an organization like the one obama... >> schieffer: how big was the white house staff when you were there? >> it was about 25 people. think about it. >> not many more. there are ohm about five senior aides. think about it. i had the first domestic policy operation. i had four peop
lyndon johnson talking to martin luther king. he said, "martin i want you to find the worst place in the south where there are the fewest negroes" -- that was the term then -- "that are eligible to vote and get your people down there and get people down there and get leaders down there and get it on television and get it on radio and get the american people to see it. then i'll shove this bill through this congress. i'll get voting rights because and treat it as the same for...
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johnson, texas. richmond nixon, california. gerald ford, was not elected. so he doesn't count. he was from michigan. jimmy carter from georgia. ronald reagan from california. the first george bush from texas via connecticut. bill clinton from arkansas and the second bush from texas. so 2008 in some ways watershed election. ends the 40-year period of sun belt dominance. and there were issues that were critical in the politics that developed, that came out of the sun belt. they tended to have a conservative cast to them. tended to be oriented around issues of strong national defense, of an opposition to unions and a defense of free enterprise politics. and also it's in the sun belt in the south and southwest, that we see the rise of what -- by the 1970s we'll be talk about as the religious right. the rise of evangelical involvement in the process. so national defense, he was a staunch anticommunist and played an important role in right wing anticommunist politics in the late 1960s, one of the things th
johnson, texas. richmond nixon, california. gerald ford, was not elected. so he doesn't count. he was from michigan. jimmy carter from georgia. ronald reagan from california. the first george bush from texas via connecticut. bill clinton from arkansas and the second bush from texas. so 2008 in some ways watershed election. ends the 40-year period of sun belt dominance. and there were issues that were critical in the politics that developed, that came out of the sun belt. they tended to have a...
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others about lyndon johnson, yes, is that he was always engaged. and sometimes people didn't like him but even people who disagreed with him kind of liked his energy and his engagement. he could call these people and say i've got to have your vote because of that engagement. oba sll has not crossed that threshold where he is engaged individually, not just with the leaders in the republican party but the leaders in his own party. >> rose: the first question is that part of his dna, you know. and even his core competence to do that. my second point is does he believe it's effective. i don't know if i believe what he says it accomplished objectives. >> it may be with the republicans that it wasn't able to accomplish the objective. that he himself has said he plays golf with boehner but then nothing happened after that. but i think he still has room to get the democrats in those rooms more, to bring them over more, to keep his own base happy and going. i think it is in his dna. one of the other interesting things he said in the interviews in that first
others about lyndon johnson, yes, is that he was always engaged. and sometimes people didn't like him but even people who disagreed with him kind of liked his energy and his engagement. he could call these people and say i've got to have your vote because of that engagement. oba sll has not crossed that threshold where he is engaged individually, not just with the leaders in the republican party but the leaders in his own party. >> rose: the first question is that part of his dna, you...
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it was used once when lyndon johnson was the speaker and that was the great civil rights battle. it's a total misuse and abuse of power. >> harry reid should not get a free pass. he has prevented republicans from ever offering amendments on a lot of these important votes. his management of the senate is imperious and when republicans have allowed things to move to a vote, not filibuster them, he still prohibited republican amendments so he bears at least half the blame for what's going on in the senate. >> this is a democracy. it shouldn't work that way. >> obama says he likes ronald reagan historically speaking. how far removed from ronald reagan is he in terms of his ability to deal? >> well, first of all, i think he's saying he liked ronald reagan. he wouldn't have liked ronald reagan had he been in the senate at the time. i don't think he's effective as a leader getting things done. >> [ multiple voices ] >> he called reagan transformational and fdr transformational, both who were. >> but he could deal. >> tim's delighted things aren't getting done. >> i don't want global war
it was used once when lyndon johnson was the speaker and that was the great civil rights battle. it's a total misuse and abuse of power. >> harry reid should not get a free pass. he has prevented republicans from ever offering amendments on a lot of these important votes. his management of the senate is imperious and when republicans have allowed things to move to a vote, not filibuster them, he still prohibited republican amendments so he bears at least half the blame for what's going on...
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but lyndon johnson he picked up a couple. again, i'm using every thing i can find. pressing the flesh was a johnson is on. lady byrd johnson comes up with motorcade. it's picked up by time magazine. there was no example of that in writing before. richard nixon had some nice ones. expletive deleted is really his. when they go over the watergate trial, it became its own sort of curse word. another one was really interesting at the time. talking about winding down the war. george h. w. bush had his own words. the cheap shot was to say that these were all off the wall. the word resume came into the english language in 1531 and one other words of the words it was always attributed to him which was stranded jury, was actually a creation of saturday night live. [laughter] with the one you can really hang in business under estimate. there have been several pretty well-known people about language online. many top riders have said it is under estimate by mistake, what happens to all of us. so it may not be words like normalcy which will gradually become a more acceptable thin
but lyndon johnson he picked up a couple. again, i'm using every thing i can find. pressing the flesh was a johnson is on. lady byrd johnson comes up with motorcade. it's picked up by time magazine. there was no example of that in writing before. richard nixon had some nice ones. expletive deleted is really his. when they go over the watergate trial, it became its own sort of curse word. another one was really interesting at the time. talking about winding down the war. george h. w. bush had...
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king did pushed the wrong button for lyndon johnson, you heard the tapes. you are doing the work on the papers project. johnson had some nasty things to say about martin king on those tapes. once johnson pushed those bonds, other black leaders came out publicly against martin. even if martin tried mightily not to take a public stance, at some point he would have felt compelled to do so. once he had done so, were he still around today, then what is the response going to be? >> i think you have to expect that those in power do not like people who speak truth to power. they would rather have flexibility that comes not out -- from not having strong grass- roots movements pushing them to do whatever things it wanted to. i think that, on some level, they understand that, particularly when we're talking about the democratic party and its relationship to its base, that unless that base is animated -- first of all, they're not going to vote in large numbers. secondly, the possibilities for any kind of progressive agenda are not going to be that great. something as i
king did pushed the wrong button for lyndon johnson, you heard the tapes. you are doing the work on the papers project. johnson had some nasty things to say about martin king on those tapes. once johnson pushed those bonds, other black leaders came out publicly against martin. even if martin tried mightily not to take a public stance, at some point he would have felt compelled to do so. once he had done so, were he still around today, then what is the response going to be? >> i think you...
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a president's job, according to george readie, the press secretary to lyndon johnson is three things -- one is to see an urgent need, one is to develop a strategy to meet an urgent need and the third is to persuade at least half the people that he is right. president nixon in the early 1960's went to china. that seems like ancient history but that was straight against the core of the republican party at that time. that was something that was inconceivable for a republican president to do, given the history of mainland china and taiwan, as they were both -- as they were both called. so there have been many times in our history when presidents have had to do the hard work. president george h.w. bush made a budget agreement for which he -- may have caused him to lose the election in 1992 because it angered a number of republicans, but it also helped balance the budget and gave us a period of time in the 1990's when that agreement plus a good economy gave us an actual surplus of funding. i sense that there is at the white house a feeling, two things that i would like to disabuse the whit
a president's job, according to george readie, the press secretary to lyndon johnson is three things -- one is to see an urgent need, one is to develop a strategy to meet an urgent need and the third is to persuade at least half the people that he is right. president nixon in the early 1960's went to china. that seems like ancient history but that was straight against the core of the republican party at that time. that was something that was inconceivable for a republican president to do, given...
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we both loved lyndon johnson. i don't think he ever read two words on second-term overreach. probably should have. but the point is that he is very aware of what has gone before and he knows that if you don't read all these books about previous presidents, previous leaders, really in world history, you're limiting yourself to yore own personal experience and that is pretty bad. >> is there a particular president, doris, with whom this president identifies the most or respects the most? >> well, i think when he first came into office, obviously, lincoln mattered a great deal to him. i mean, in part probably because the emancipation proclamation, the end of slavery, and he's the first african-american president, almost like closing that circle. but i think as his term went on he was reading about franklin roosevelt, teld di roosevelt. i think there's a sense when the problems change the president that you look back to changes as well. otherwise, we historians would be useful if we didn't help other know what i mean the future. >> one example of this in history is that lincoln a
we both loved lyndon johnson. i don't think he ever read two words on second-term overreach. probably should have. but the point is that he is very aware of what has gone before and he knows that if you don't read all these books about previous presidents, previous leaders, really in world history, you're limiting yourself to yore own personal experience and that is pretty bad. >> is there a particular president, doris, with whom this president identifies the most or respects the most?...
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finally robert caro, the pulitzer prize winning author of the biography of lyndon johnson. the most recent biography is called "the passage of power." i'm pleased to have all of them here as we broadcast on this inauguration day as we talk about the second term of president barack obama. i begin with robert caro. what is the challenge for presidents in a second term? >> challenge but a great opportunity when you're in the second term you have nothing more to run for, no more elections. so what you're running for a place in history and you know if you do a great job you will have a great place in history. >> rose: and you never know what's coming though, as vietnam -- >> oh, it -- as i write now, the last line about lyndon johnson, when his second term starts with passing medicare, voting rights act, civil rights act just on the triumph of getting social welfare legislation through and here comes vietnam in 1965 overshadowing it all and everything turns and as you're listening to the tapes of these conversations and you hear the despair in his -- the growing despair in his v
finally robert caro, the pulitzer prize winning author of the biography of lyndon johnson. the most recent biography is called "the passage of power." i'm pleased to have all of them here as we broadcast on this inauguration day as we talk about the second term of president barack obama. i begin with robert caro. what is the challenge for presidents in a second term? >> challenge but a great opportunity when you're in the second term you have nothing more to run for, no more...
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>> 13 lyndon johnson 1964 was my first. i came with my mom. this is before i worked at cbs and then my first one as a reporter was 1968 with richard nixon. >> jon: oh, that was an exciting one. >> yeah. >> jon: that was all the counter culture. >> i was actually sent down abby hoffman. >> jon: sure. >> they decided they would inaugurate a pig while he was inaugurated. they d. that was my assignment. i went down there. [ laughter ] >> jon: wait -- >> it was raining. >> jon: i just want everybody to catch up to this for a second. >> yes. >> jon: so you went there as a all righter and they said, bob, we have an assignment for you. >> first assignment in washington. >> jon: there's this pig -- [ laughter ] -- and then -- >> the pig got out. they got the pig out and it was raining and we chased the pig around. [ laughter ] and i called my mother that night and she said it must have been so wonderful. tell me about the dresses the ladies we are at the inaugural. i said mom, i'm out here chasing a pig in the rain. i didn't get indoors. you have to st
>> 13 lyndon johnson 1964 was my first. i came with my mom. this is before i worked at cbs and then my first one as a reporter was 1968 with richard nixon. >> jon: oh, that was an exciting one. >> yeah. >> jon: that was all the counter culture. >> i was actually sent down abby hoffman. >> jon: sure. >> they decided they would inaugurate a pig while he was inaugurated. they d. that was my assignment. i went down there. [ laughter ] >> jon: wait --...
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lyndon johnson had the civil rights movement. i think we begin with that. this book comes out at a moment when the country sees the power and possibility of occupy, 99%, and how that has shifted. it is still evolving. it has shifted the center of political gravity of our dialogue. the issue has been off the radar for so long. >> roosevelt surfed and harnessed those movements. he used them to get legislation passed to initiate programs. obama is still getting on his wet suit. to read the essay she wrote in 2008, there was a sense of exhibits -- exuberance. you say that hope is not optimism that expects things to turn out well. it seems like he confused those two things. >> i will come back to what i write about in the book. the expectations were so great and high. go back to 2008. the back to the election and year when we are fortunate region were fortunate enough to be living with debates that were not cruel reality shows. every week, there were debates among the democratic candidates. barack obama embodied change. it seemed he brought into politics a gener
lyndon johnson had the civil rights movement. i think we begin with that. this book comes out at a moment when the country sees the power and possibility of occupy, 99%, and how that has shifted. it is still evolving. it has shifted the center of political gravity of our dialogue. the issue has been off the radar for so long. >> roosevelt surfed and harnessed those movements. he used them to get legislation passed to initiate programs. obama is still getting on his wet suit. to read the...
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. >> surely finding osama bin laden, surely passing civil rights legislation as lyndon johnson was able to do and before that, surely defeating the nazis was a much more formidable task than taking on the gun lobby. >> so if we can defeat the germans in world war ii, i guess the n.r.a. is supposed to be-- is that what he's saying? >> right, he's giving himself a little bit of wiggle room. i didn't exactly compare the nra to the nazis, stew $them in the same spot and let the audience sort it out. we're sure to see, on gun owners opponents of gun control and language when you see words like nazis. george orwell in 1946 a famous essay, the word fascism should only be used for people with hitler and-- that was 1946, 70 years later we're still doing it. >> jon: do you see it differently, judy? >> not really, i thought that schieffer was very close to the line of advocacy as opposed to reading the news and being straight about a news story. i do think that even though there was no direct comparison there's clearly an inference that the n.r.a. is equivalent to the nazis and raises questions wh
. >> surely finding osama bin laden, surely passing civil rights legislation as lyndon johnson was able to do and before that, surely defeating the nazis was a much more formidable task than taking on the gun lobby. >> so if we can defeat the germans in world war ii, i guess the n.r.a. is supposed to be-- is that what he's saying? >> right, he's giving himself a little bit of wiggle room. i didn't exactly compare the nra to the nazis, stew $them in the same spot and let the...
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[applause] >> lyndon johnson was inaugurated in 1965. at the ceremony, ladybird johnson started the ceremony of the first lady's held in the bible swearing in. this is about 15 minutes. >> do you lyndon b. hess johnson, solace where. -- solemnly swear that you will faithfully execute the office of the presidency of the united states. and will to the best of your abilities. >> and will to the best of my ability -- >> preserve, protect and defend it -- >> the constitution of the united states and -- >> the constitution of the united states -- >> so help you got a. >> so help me god. [applause] >> my fellow countrymen, on this occasion the oath i have taken before you and before god is not mine alone, but ours together. we are one nation and one people. our fate as a nation and our future as a people rest not upon one citizen but upon all citizens. that is the majesty and the meaning of this moment. for every generation there is a destiny. for some, history decides. for this generation the choice must be our own. even now, a rocket moves to
[applause] >> lyndon johnson was inaugurated in 1965. at the ceremony, ladybird johnson started the ceremony of the first lady's held in the bible swearing in. this is about 15 minutes. >> do you lyndon b. hess johnson, solace where. -- solemnly swear that you will faithfully execute the office of the presidency of the united states. and will to the best of your abilities. >> and will to the best of my ability -- >> preserve, protect and defend it -- >> the...
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district judge sarah hughes who was summoned to duty aboard air force one with lyndon johnson following a national tragedy, for the fourth time in our nation's history a woman has sworn in either the president or the vice president of the united states. i had a chance to sit down with justice sotomayor this week to talk about her historic moment. >> i was thinking just a couple of days ago if i think back of when i was a kid, which of the two events would have seemed more improbable to me. i realized each one was so far fetched that i couldn't have imagined either. >> supreme court, swearing in the vice president? >> supreme court or swearing in the vice president in front of the nation and the world. >> does it make you anxious? >> anxiety is not the word. >> and you talked to her, soledad, about how she's perceived on the bench. >> yeah. and she's considered to be very tough and she doesn't really mind or care what people have -- have that analysis of how she is on the bench. here's what she told me. >> i think the noblest profession in the world is lawyering and if a lawyer showed up
district judge sarah hughes who was summoned to duty aboard air force one with lyndon johnson following a national tragedy, for the fourth time in our nation's history a woman has sworn in either the president or the vice president of the united states. i had a chance to sit down with justice sotomayor this week to talk about her historic moment. >> i was thinking just a couple of days ago if i think back of when i was a kid, which of the two events would have seemed more improbable to...
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but lyndon johnson understood, he had a few months. just a few months. that's when he got voting rights done. that's when he got a lot of those major pieces of great society legislation done, was in those months of 1965. medicare, all that. and so, i think we're likely to see a lot of activity right now. >> on immigration, guns, debt. all coming up. we're going to get that all day long here. >>> i want to go back to josh elliott on pennsylvania avenue. you're giving us a little weather, right, josh? >> it's a beautiful day. you were speaking of the battle lines drawn. let today stand as it is, an oasis of unity. one that is brisk but sunny. we want to thank our sam champion dearly for the weather we have in the nation's capital today, sam. >> just because it could have been worse. we've had everything. it's the topic all politicians and news folks will agree on today. washington's weather regularly changes in january. ronald reagan had the warmest and the coldest inauguration day. 55 degrees, and the coldest ever, 7 degrees in 1985. here's what we're loo
but lyndon johnson understood, he had a few months. just a few months. that's when he got voting rights done. that's when he got a lot of those major pieces of great society legislation done, was in those months of 1965. medicare, all that. and so, i think we're likely to see a lot of activity right now. >> on immigration, guns, debt. all coming up. we're going to get that all day long here. >>> i want to go back to josh elliott on pennsylvania avenue. you're giving us a little...